Volume or Frequency?
I love it when a great discussion spawns an idea that hopefully brings us closer to understanding what makes us tick and how we can achieve our goals. Today I’m going to ponder on volume and frequency of your daygame.
Volume And Warming Up
The discussion started in the comments section of a blog post over at Days of Game. Nash observed that in both Tom Torero’s and his approach to daygame there is a period of warming up, where first sets are noticeably worse. He then suggests that high volume approaching, per each session, is a must because warming up is inevitable.
“When I see ‘3 approaches,’ I know a guy isn’t at the potential he could be if he hit ’10’ or ’15’ and really hit his stride.” – Nash
Let me start by saying that you definitely need to accumulate a lot of approaches before you can even think of being comfortable with picking up girls on the streets. In my opinion, that requirement ranges from 100 to 300 sets. Bear in mind that “comfortable” doesn’t mean “having results” and we’re just talking about the total amount of work done.
Daily high volume approaching (because that’s how I understand Nash’s proposition) should be a phase in your daygame journey just like going for the one rep max is just a phase in most lifters life.
That’s a good analogy for our daygame struggles. Beginners are training their social muscles just like newbies at the gym train their, well, regular muscles. To oversimplify things and take this one step further: you can train for strength or for endurance. If you’re doing the former you’ll be able to lift more weights at a time. If you’re doing the latter you can work out for much longer.
I’m not saying that doing one doesn’t help you with another. After I started to work out heavily, my long distance running improved as well. But the point is when I was running marathons my body was adapting to endure constant intensity for a very long time. Now that I’m only lifting weights, my body is adapting to – you’ve guessed it – lifting more weights.
Back to daygame. I really do believe that you either train your social muscle to endure a long periods of stressful events (volume of approaches per session) or its ability to switch from the inside of your head to being social (frequency of sessions).
Dangers Of High Volume Approaching
We all know dangers that come with high volume approaching. Clueless guys spam approach the streets because some bald dude on the Internet said that “you need 100-300 approaches to become comfortable”. Some people will think that they can do all that in one week and they’re going to miss the most crucial part of learning – reflection.
I’m not saying that every guy that does 15 sets per day is a spam approacher. But there is a risk that some will take “you need high volume every day you go out” as “spam approach the city”!
You can spend a whole day fishing or you can just electrocute the motherfuckers and collect stunned fish.
I always was an advocate of frequent gaming. That is – go out every single day and do even one or two sets. More, if you can. But keep talking to girls, keep getting used to switching from your inner dialogue to talking to a chick on the street. That’s the only way how it’ll become easier.
Vibe And Momentum
I share Nick Krauser’s sentiments when it comes to hunting and what he calls crack pipe daygame. I was never one of those crazy guys doing hundreds of sets per month or tens of sets per day. My goal wasn’t to bang as many girls as possible but to become competent. I wanted to be sure that I can handle all the daytime social situations smoothly.
What I didn’t want was to rely on my current state to fuel my interactions. Good humor is transient. I was looking for something that could give me more control over my actions. You can see it even in my posts from 2015 on vibe and momentum. I really wanted to be able to chat up this girl on a bus stop or that girl that I see on my way to the gym.
Daygame shouldn’t be some kind of weird ritual you do on the weekends. After a while it should become natural to you so you can do it as you run your daily errands.
Are You A Sniper Or A Machinegunner?
Saying you need to warm up, to do 5-10-20 sets before you’re at the top of your game means that you rob yourself of all those random opportunities when you’re doing something else like living your life. Besides, there aren’t that many places in the world where you can consistently do tens of sets every time you go out. What then? You’ll be stuck up in constant warm-up.
Of course, some guys will do better after doing ten sets than during their first approach of the day. But others will be exhausted and they will need a coffee or a nap. In both cases working on your base level of vibe and the ability to jump right into a proper state will be useful.
“I’d say Crack Pipe and Fat Buddha game are equally good but very clearly appropriate for different moods and circumstances.” – Nick Krauser
I’d pile on and say these are different styles for high-intermediate/advanced daygamers and while they are both good, they are not interchangeable. Some people will have better results doing one or the other. Others will burn out really quickly doing one of these things. It’s all about your personality, there is no “one size fits all” solution.
Just make sure you know what you’re doing and why. And don’t spam approach.